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The Ten Best Things Ed Seykota Ever Said.

Arguably one of the greatest traders of all time with his trend following system.

Charles Faulkner tells a story about Seykota’s finely honed intuition when it comes to trading: I am reminded of an experience that Ed Seykota shared with a group. He said that when he looks at a market, that everyone else thinks has exhausted its up trend, that is often when he likes to get in. When I asked him how he made this determination, he said he just puts the chart on the other side of the room and if it looked like it was going up, then he would buy it… Of course this trade was seen through the eyes of someone with deep insight into the market behavior

The Ten Best Things Ed Seykota Ever Said:

Psychology

“To avoid whipsaw losses, stop trading.”

“It can be very expensive to try to convince the markets you are right.”

“A fish at one with the water sees nothing between himself and his prey. A trader at one with his feelings feels nothing between himself and executing his method.”

Risk Management

“The elements of good trading are cutting losses, cutting losses, and cutting losses.”

“Here’s the essence of risk management: Risk no more than you can afford to lose, and also risk enough so that a win is meaningful. If there is no such amount, don’t play.”

“In your recipe for success, don’t forget commitment – and a deep belief in the inevitability of your success.”

Trading System

“The trend is your friend except at the end when it bends.”

“If you want to know everything about the market, go to the beach. Push and pull your hands with the waves. Some are bigger waves, some are smaller. But if you try to push the wave out when it’s coming in, it’ll never happen. The market is always right.”

“Systems don’t need to be changed. The trick is for a trader to develop a system with which he is compatible.”

“I don’t predict a nonexisting future.”

Ed Seykota is a legend in the trend following community and has returns that would make Bernie Madoff  jealous, because his are real. If you can fully grasp what Ed is saying in these quotes it will improve your trading dramatically.

The Intuitive Trader -Quotes from the Book

Having read Kurzban’s Why everyone (else) is a hypocrite, I am convinced that the left brain/right brain split is a gross oversimplification of the brain’s functional organization. Nonetheless, sometimes simplifications work well enough. For today’s post I’m going to share some thoughts from Robert Koppel’s 1996 book The Intuitive Trader: Developing Your Inner Trading Wisdom. It’s an extended argument for and a series of illustrations of using the right hemisphere to expand trading prowess.

The bulk of the book is a series of interviews with traders and those who worked with traders, many of whom predate my active involvement in the markets. Among the cast of characters are Bill Williams, Richard McCall, Charles Faulkner, Edward Allan Toppel, Ellen Williams, Linda Leventhal, Howard Abell, Tom Belsanti, and Peter Mulmat.

Here are a few disconnected excerpts that I thought worth passing along.

“[T]he experience of successful trading is subjective, unself-conscious, and intuitive. This state of mind, it seems to me, has more in common with the spirit of jazz—improvisational, automatic, and responsive to the riff—than with a well-articulated and analyzed process of decision making.” (p. 6)

“Some traders are still of the opinion that we ‘make’ profits and ‘take’ losses. The simple answer is: we make both. Loss has to be assumed in trading as inevitable not accidental.” (p. 19)

On the importance of ritual: The author describes one of the most successful CME floor traders who “after completing his trading card, as he puts it in his pocket, … always says, ‘Yeah.’ … [H]e developed this ritual because he sensed the feeling of letting down after he would have a loser. And he had to figure out some way within himself to be able to go on to the next trade with the same level of energy, resolve, and motivation that he would get from one good trade to the next good trade.” (p. 63)

In response to the question “Have you ever figured out what percentage of your trades are profitable?” Peter Mulmat answered: “No, I haven’t. I just look in terms of monthly performance. That’s kind of the criteria I use to gauge my performance. I find to go any shorter period of time is just frustrating for me.” (p. 188)

Fortune Favors the bold

Trend following, like any entrepreneurial endeavor, demands you be responsible for yourself. Charles Faulkner emphasized the point:

‘Trend trading and even trading in general isn’t for everyone. As too few people check out what the day-to-day life of a trader is like, and trend trading specifically, I strongly recommend they find out before making a life-changing commitment.’

What does ‘life-changing commitment’ involve? You commit to not wanting to be right all of the time. Most people, let’s face it, must be right. They live to have other people know they’re right. They don’t even want success. They don’t even want to win. They don’t want money. They just want to be right. The winners, on the other hand, just want to win.

What else can you do? You commit to patience and faith in a trading system that is not structured on quarterly performance or some artificial measure of the ‘mass’. You work hard to gain experience. Great experience leads to great intuition. You commit to thinking for the long term and not feeling insecure if you don’t have a steady earnings stream of 1-2 percent a month. You might have one year where you are down 10 percent. The following year you might be down 15 percent. The next year you might be up 115 percent. If you quit at the end of the second year, you will never get to the third year. That’s reality.

Stay humble

More great lessons and trend following trading wisdom from Michael Covel’s book: ‘Trend Following – Learn to make millions in up or down markets’. I am quoting from page 282-283:

Fortune Favors the bold

Trend following, like any entrepreneurial endeavor, demands you be responsible for yourself. Charles Faulkner emphasized the point:

‘Trend trading and even trading in general isn’t for everyone. As too few people check out what the day-to-day life of a trader is like, and trend trading specifically, I strongly recommend they find out before making a life-changing commitment.’

What does ‘life-changing commitment’ involve? You commit to not wanting to be right all of the time. Most people, let’s face it, must be right. They live to have other people know they’re right. They don’t even want success. They don’t even want to win. They don’t want money. They just want to be right. The winners, on the other hand, just want to win.

What else can you do? You commit to patience and faith in a trading system that is not structured on quarterly performance or some artificial measure of the ‘mass’. You work hard to gain experience. Great experience leads to great intuition. You commit to thinking for the long term and not feeling insecure if you don’t have a steady earnings stream of 1-2 percent a month. You might have one year where you are down 10 percent. The following year you might be down 15 percent. The next year you might be up 115 percent. If you quit at the end of the second year, you will never get to the third year. That’s reality.

Ed Seykota Quotes

Markets
The markets are the same now as they were five or ten years ago because they keep changing-just like they did then.
Short-Term Trading
The elements of good trading are cutting losses, cutting losses, and cutting losses.
Outcomes
Win or lose, everybody gets what they want out of the market. Some people seem to like to lose, so they win by losing money.
I think that if people look deeply enough into their trading patterns, they find that, on balance, including all their goals, they are really getting what they want, even though they may not understand it or want to admit it.
Market Trends
The trend is your friend except at the end where it bends.
Charles Faulkner tells a story about Seykota’s finely honed intuition when it comes to trading: I am reminded of an experience that Ed Seykota shared with a group. He said that when he looks at a market, that everyone else thinks has exhausted its up trend, that is often when he likes to get in. When I asked him how he made this determination, he said he just puts the chart on the other side of the room and if it looked like it was going up, then he would buy it… Of course this trade was seen through the eyes of someone with deep insight into the market behavior.
Predicting the Future
If you want to know everything about the market, go to the beach. Push and pull your hands with the waves. Some are bigger waves, some are smaller. But if you try to push the wave out when it’s coming in, it’ll never happen. The market is always right.
Trading
To avoid whipsaw losses, stop trading.
Here’s the essence of risk management: Risk no more than you can afford to lose, and also risk enough so that a win is meaningful. If there is no such amount, don’t play.
Pyramiding instructions appear on dollar bills. Add smaller and smaller amounts on the way up. Keep your eye open at the top.
Markets are fundamentally volatile. No way around it. Your prolem is not in the math. There is no math to ge you out of having to experience uncertainty.
It can be very expensive to try to convince the markets you are right.
System Trading
Systems don’t need to be changed. The trick is for a trader to develop a system with which he is compatible. (more…)

9 +1 Points For Traders

Just like no texting while driving, listening to Blue Channels while trading should be outlawed. Mute button on is OK thou.

You can’t think & trade at the same time… which means you need to have thought out everything ahead of time.

“We respond to our thoughts and feelings about reality; we don’t respond to reality.” – Charles Faulkner

If you’re gonna be rigid, be rigid in managing the risk… other than that, be flexible.

“Start each day from last night’s close, not your original cost.” – Stuart Walton

Confidence bestows good trading… overconfidence bestows 100% drawdowns …find a happy medium by using risk management

One of the best ways to stay aligned w/ the markets is to remove “I think”, “I disagree”, & “In my opinion (IMO)” from your thought process

“The most important organ in the body as far as the stock market is concerned is the guts, not the head.” – Peter Lynch

“The superior traders gravitate to a single approach-the specific approach is not important-and become extremely adept at it.” – Faulkner

“I have noticed that everyone who has ever told me that the markets are efficient is poor.” – Larry Hite

The Disciplined Trader: Developing Winning Attitudes by Mark Douglas

Intro

  • Reaching the level of success they desire as traders will require them to make at least some, if not many, changes in the way they perceive market action.
  • The markets have absolutely no power or control over you, no expectation of your behavior, and no regard for your welfare.
  • There are only a few traders who have come to the realization that they alone are completely responsible for the outcome of their actions.  Even fewer are those who have accept the psychological implications of that realization and know what to do about it.
  • The nature of the markets made it easy no to have to confront anything that otherwise might be perceived as a problem because the next trade always had the possibility of making everything else in one’s life seem irrelevant.
  • I CREATED MY LOSSES INSTEAD OF AVOIDING THEM SIMPLY BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO AVOID THEM.
  • Unsuccessful Trading Behaviors
    1. Refusing to define a loss.
    2. Not liquidating a losing trade, even after you have acknowledged the trade’s potential is greatly diminished.
    3. Getting locked into a specific opinion or belief about market direction.  I.E. “I’m right, the market is wrong.”
    4. Focusing on price and the money
    5. Revenge-trading to get back at the market from what it took from you.
    6. Not reversing your position even when you clearly sense a change in market direction
    7. Not following the rules of the trading system.
    8. Planning for a move or feeling one building, then not trading it.
    9. Not acting on your instincts or intuition
    10. Establishing a consistent patter of trading success over a period of time, and then giving your winning back to the market in one or two trades.

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