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Catalyst that could lead to a crash

“Chinese banks face state loans turmoil; about Rmb1,550B in questionable loans. “
This simple sentence reminds me of the Japanese Banks prior to the big Nikkei crash, that has not yet recovered (over 20 years).
What did we learn from the subprime mess ? The banks lied to us …..
What did we learn about the Nikkei crash ? The banks lied ….
1) Watch the Shanghai Index ! It has risen from its July’s low to almost 2600 ; a key resistance level.
2) Watch light crude oil prices (key indicator for the Chinese demand)
3) Did you just make some money on this rally ? SELL !!!!
I am bearish ? No, its just NOT the time to “buy and hold”

Marc Faber Discusses Chinese Economic Cooling Off, Sees Day Of Reckoning Delayed

Nothing notably new here from the man who has called for a Chinese crash in as little as 12 months. Now that the Chinese PMI came at the lowest level in 17 months (in line with the drop in the US ISM but completely the opposite of Europe’s PMI as everyone makes up their own data on the fly now with no rhyme or reason), Faber seems to have mellowed out a little on the Chinese end-play. He now sees the China government stepping in and prevent a collapse of the economy when needed, as the economy has dropped from a near 12% GDP growth to a collapse in the PMI in the span of a few months, even as Chinese banks lent another quarter trillion renminbi billion in July, and issued who knows how many hundreds of billions in CDOs to keep the ponzi afloat.

From Bloomberg TV:

On the cooling of China’s economy:

“I mean I’ve been arguing this year that the economy would inevitably slow down, because the impact of the stimulus would diminish. But having said that, the economy hasn’t crashed yet. It could still crash. But on the other hand, if you look at the performance of equities worldwide, it seems that the worse the economic news is, that the more the markets go up, because the market participants expect further easing measures, and maybe further stimulus. So altogether I would say it’s not going to be a disaster for stock investors yet. It’s interesting. The Chinese stock market began to discount the slowdown in economic growth actually precisely a year ago, in August, 2009. The market peaked out. And then drifted lower, but now that the bad news is essentially out, the market has started to rebound.”

On whether the property market is the biggest weakness in China:

“I’d like to make the following observation. We have a global economy, and an economy has different sectors. And you can have recession in some sectors of the economy. You can have a crash, say, in the property market, and you can have other sectors expanding. [Bolton: That’s the biggest weakness, right Marc, as far as you’re concerned, in the Chinese economy right now, it is the overheating in the property market?….] Well, I’m not sure. Because if they ease again, the speculation will go on. But we have credit problems in the property market undoubtedly. We have Ponzi schemes like loan sharking operations all over China. That’s a very dangerous. But what I would like to point out is that the agricultural sector, the rural sector in China and everywhere in the world is doing relatively well, because agricultural prices have started to rebound. And that was also seen in Thailand. In Thailand, new car sales are up very strongly.”

On whether the Chinese government will delay increasing interest rates this year:

“I think even if they increase it marginally it’s meaningless. Because interest rates are far below nominal GDP growth, and in my opinion far below inflation.”

Finally, China Acknowledged The Bubble

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China’s lending surged to 1.39 trillion yuan ($203 billion) in January and property prices climbed the most in 21 months. According to the National Development and Reform Commission property prices in 70 cities of china have rose 9.5% from a year earlier. The surge of prices has been due to the affects of easy lending followed with uncontrolled flow of funds in to the main streets. Real estate is one of the sectors where prices have scaled up. Automobile followed with cements and capital goods are also under the ambit of excess flow of funds resulting over capacity bubble .Asset prices and commodity prices are also under the threat of excess valuation.
It’s not due to the stimulus package alone declared by china but the uncontrolled loans given by banks without taking care of any quality measures on the loan papers. Its juts like US mortgage case where quality of loans was never taken in to account. China’s 9.35 trillion yuan of loans in 2009 have given birth to the fear of another financial crisis in the fastest growing economy.
The borrowing in the month of January’s was 14% less than a year earlier, after the government targeted a reduction in new loans this year to 7.5 trillion yuan from a record 9.59 trillion yuan in 2009. This have happened due to the strict norms declared by china during the end of January 2010.Chinese banks are now focusing and have instructed on the quality of loans that are being disbursed. The new lending norms framed by china are:
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